Height limitations {also other limitations}

Frankly the issue was brought up and apparently rules were set. I wasn't aware. It seems nobody was aware. So we're starting the conversation now. Any argument on the topic is to go here. What you think any maximum's and minimums should be or if there should be any at all.


As for me personally I'm supporting the human laws. Meaning if I can think that a human can survive it, they can survive it.

For height, the highest known altitude anyones reached is 19,520 feet. The highest permanent settlement sits at 16,700 feet. The death zone, as it is called when the lack of oxygen becomes so great humans can't survive at all, is at 26,000 feet.

Now in terms of combat, none of these heights are realistic, as in combat you'd still have a lack of oxygen, and that lack of oxygen would prevent you from dealing with high stress. So continue the research.

Of the 140 million people living above 8,200 feet have completely adapted to the lower oxygen levels and can perform all the tasks necessary. Again, we're talking about long term exposure and acclimation to the environment. If you just got to that level you aren't dealing with the issue.

Moving on, to sports or athletic events. Due to increased altitude having negative or positive effects due to, records set at high altitudes have an "A' next to them to indicate that they were set at a high altitude. This altitude is set at 1,000 feet.

So after the data I believe that we can set our maximum at 900 feet just below and exactly 3 football fields in length. However I'm also setting this as a maximum up to SS-rank. Meaning all different ranks would have different limits. Say X-ranks can go above the 1,000 feet but since nobody will be x-rank for a while I'm leaving all that for later.

The final issue comes down to abusive combat tactics as if you could fly so high and just fire projectiles, with our no mana system, you'd be invincible because nobody could hit you as well as you could hit them. So maximum spell distances would have to be set equal to or above the height limits.

Proposed height limits:
D-rank: 100 feet (about 30.5 meters)
C-rank: 300 feet (about 91.5 meters)
B-rank: 500 feet (exactly 152.4 meters)
A-rank: 600 feet (about 182.9 meters)
S-rank: 750 feet (exactly 228.6 meters)
SS-rank: 900 feet (about 274.3 meters)

edit: no member aside from Ean, Wukong, or Bacon is allowed to post on this currently. While you are allowed to read hold your opinions till later. This got out of control a short while ago so things are going to be a little tight this second.

Can ya convert it to meters? >.>

height limitations updated.

For character perk... Id like to leave it just below D rank level. Only with magic can they 'upgrade' the height. That way it isn't exploited in char app. What do ya think?

The final issue comes down to abusive combat tactics as if you could fly so high and just fire projectiles, with our no mana system, you'd be invincible because nobody could hit you as well as you could hit them. So maximum spell distances would have to be set equal to or above the height limits.

I would like to address this first, no matter what sort of tactic you are using in combat, unless you are literally doing something your character cannot do, there should be nothing wrong with it. If you so choose to fight you are accept a few facts: You could be seriously injured, you could die, you do not know what your opponent is capable of (unless you have seen what they are capable of prior or you have been given knowledge of their capabilities prior to the fight.)

Thus, the words "abusive combat tactics" shouldn't be used. If you cannot fly that is your own fault and thus you should make up for it by other means. There is nothing that says spells cannot be homing to a certain degree, AOE's are still effects when fighting someone in the air while you are on the ground and there are several other ways to go about fighting someone when they can fly and you cannot, flying = invincible in any way shape or form. With that said I would like to move on to the important matter at hand.

Your proposed height limits look completely perfect to me, Nice job~

Bacon wrote:For character perk... Id like to leave it just below D rank level. Only with magic can they 'upgrade' the height. That way it isn't exploited in char app. What do ya think?

I disagree with this, whether it be via perk or magic, since there is no real mana system, you aren't exactly losing anything on one end or the other whether you choose to have flying via perk or magic and I think it would make sense for the height you can go to be relevant to your characters rank regardless of whether its magic or perk. This would make the most sense with the way Ean has described how being able to go up higher works.

Hm... Cause the only issue I had was that the numbers are too "large." But, after I googled something close to home: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transamerica_Pyramid

I now have an idea of how high this is. So, I'm perfectly fine with this although I'd like capping the use to a few posts

So you just wanna lower the numbers?

Sun Wukong wrote:So you just wanna lower the numbers?

I did before but now that I have an idea of how high 900 feet is, it's not that bad 0.o

alright so everything's good, yes~? If so, unless Ean wanted to change anything about this then were good 2 goe~

(Bacon said this thread is now open for all of staff)

Okay guys, just for records. They has been arguments with some characters (including myself) where people have tried to have 6 or more wings and they were denied. The issue here is that certain Races like Bardo's Fallen Angel and My Seraphim has those numbers of wings due to lore and such. Changing that on our characters essentially negates the right to use those races which is completely uncalled for an rp site.

Raina wrote:(Bacon said this thread is now open for all of staff)

Okay guys, just for records. They has been arguments with some characters (including myself) where people have tried to have 6 or more wings and they were denied. The issue here is that certain Races like Bardo's Fallen Angel and My Seraphim has those numbers of wings due to lore and such. Changing that on our characters essentially negates the right to use those races which is completely uncalled for an rp site.

The current excuse for that is that they'd be too heavy, but, inherently, wings are extremely light. Otherwise, they wouldn't be able to float on something as light as air. Six individual wings working midair has nothing to do with the weight. In fact, it helps decrease the weight of the person to help them fly better, as you get more air control from more wings.

really don't know what the issue is with wings. As long as your not trying to pass it off as making you a 'better flyer' and it doesn't complicate any system in place then it's perfectly fine.

Visuals are never problematic.

If they aren't trying to directly abuse or get around a system that's been built its probably fine. Don't get uppity over small little things. This is not an mmorpg where you need to factor in every tiny little detail from the get go. This is a writing site. If you don't let them write what they want you aren't doing anybody any favors.

this done?